Ukraine updates in English

[N0TZU]

I doubt it will happen in such stark terms. Practical countermeasures will be developed - but that will take time.

[US7IGN]

Because of the blackouts, I've gone back to using a small battery powered homemade QRP radio when I don't have power, enjoying the lack of noise. Perhaps this is the only advantage when electricity is cut off for an entire area or even a city. My vertical cannot be called a very effective antenna, and although I hear a lot of DX, it is usually stations from Europe that answer me. However, it does allow for some interesting QSO to be made.

Again you have to plan what you need to do while there is electricity and what you can do when there is no electricity. Fortunately, although not always fast, the Internet and mobile communications remain. My laptop battery has been dead for a long time, so this doesn't matter to me, but for many others it's an opportunity to keep working.

The strictest electricity restrictions among all regions of Ukraine are planned in Kyiv and the region. Oleksandr Kharchenko, director of the Energy Research Center, explained that this is due to the large amount of critical infrastructure in the city. In most regions, according to schedules, power outages are from 4 to 8 hours per day, and in Kyiv - from 9 hours in total. https://kyiv.novyny.live/u-kiievi-diiatimut-naizhorstkishi-vidkliuchennia-svitla-v-chomu-prichina-177202.html

Tonight there was only one attack on the Dnipro, but with damage and casualties. https://www.slovoidilo.ua/2024/06/04/novyna/bezpeka/okupanty-vdaryly-raketamy-po-dnipru-ye-poraneni

There was information that Ukrainian troops struck russian military facilities in the Belgorod and Kursk regions on June 1 and 2. However, ISW analysts did not find any evidence that the Ukrainians used Western weapons for the strikes. https://tsn.ua/ato/zsu-vlashtuvali-seriyu-udariv-po-teritoriyi-rf-v-isw-ocinili-chi-bili-zahidnoyu-zbroyeyu-2592186.html

The Government of Ukraine plans to allow the mobilization of personnel of the State Emergency Service and the National Police. However, this situation has already caused dissatisfaction within the system. Critics of this decision even say that the crime situation in the country may worsen. https://www.bbc.com/ukrainian/articles/c877ypdxv3vo

Defense enterprises, which are recognized as critically important for the economy of Ukraine and can legally reserve to 100% of employees, call on the authorities not to mobilize officially employed workers during the reconciliation of data in the mobilization center.

More than forty enterprises, in an appeal to the Prime Minister, Ministers of Defense and Strategic Industries, as well as the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces, draw attention to the fact that, after the simultaneous entry into force of a number of legal and by-laws, the production potential of the domestic defense industry has been put in jeopardy.

In particular, after the employee reaches the age of 25, the company is obliged to check his military registration data with the mobilization center, and the employee must pass a military medical commission.

"There are rare cases when it is during this "transitional" period that the mobilization centers carry out the mobilization of the specified category of employees, although they have official evidence of their direct participation in the implementation of state defense contracts. Despite the participation of such specialists in the implementation of state contracts with the state customer in the field of defense and special importance for the military industry, immediately after passing the military medical commission, such employees are given a mobilization order without the possibility of making a reservation," - the heads of defense enterprises note. https://www.epravda.com.ua/news/2024/06/3/714597/

[US7IGN]

Every day I think about two things - how can I earn money provided I cannot work for hire and considering restrictions on movement, and about reunification with my family, provided that the children cannot leave Poland, the wife cannot leave the children, and I can only leave Ukraine illegally with big risks. The worst thing is that I still do not lose hope for the end of the war and the subsequent restoration of Ukraine, in which I would like to stay to live and work.

And now all this can be scaled throughout the entire country and those who live in it. It is incredibly difficult for Ukrainians to fight both the russians and the authorities at the same time, and their strength is rapidly running out. I see Western support in the fight against the russians, but obviously no one will help the Ukrainians with the rest. But if you don't remove the cancer (the government), it will kill the organ (the state) and then the whole organism (the country). How can healthy cells survive in this situation?

On Monday, June 3, the Shevchenkivsky District Court of Kyiv allowed the transfer of the Gulliver shopping and entertainment complex to the management of the state agency for the management of seized assets, satisfying the corresponding request of the Prosecutor General's Office. Gulliver's representatives claim that this decision grossly violates the procedural and material norms of the law and actually means business seizure with the assistance of law enforcement and law enforcement agencies. https://www.rbc.ua/rus/news/sud-peredav-trts-gulliver-upravlinnya-arma-1717433315.html

Ukraine cannot wait for the end of the war to build its economy, so the US is investing in the development of the Ukrainian economy right now. This was stated by White House National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan during the Global Impact forum of officials and experts on June 3 in Washington.

He said that the US is "actively working to find and acquire additional air defense systems" to help protect Ukrainian skies from Russian attacks. "But on the other hand, you can't fight a war, a war of aggression that your neighbor has started and is waging on your territory, if you don't have the economy to generate the resources to keep your soldiers on the front lines," Sullivan explained. He added that "the idea that we can somehow support the military but not the economy defies everything we know about running an effective military campaign." https://www.holosameryky.com/a/sullivan-forum/7640612.html

Unfortunately, I do not see how this can be done without changing the state policy, and also by dismissing the last intelligent people who fight against corruption from public positions. Apparently, they are hiding from us the intentions of a new counteroffensive, given the number of mobilized troops who should reach the Ural Mountains at least. Then, after the capitulation of russia, all these temporary difficulties will really not matter, and Moscow's reparations will compensate for all the damage. It is obvious that such a stupid person like me is simply not able to appreciate all the wisdom and far-sightedness of our authorities. And all the things I don't understand are aimed at misleading the enemy, who should think that Ukraine is very weak and helpless.

Secrecy is already such that on the official website of the Embassy of Ukraine to the UK, a month after Zaluzhnyi's appointment as ambassador, the last statement was made by the previous ambassador. https://uk.mfa.gov.ua/en/timeline?&type=posts

By the way, everything is fine with diplomacy in Ukraine.

The leader of the Chinese Communist Party does not keep his word! Zelensky's speech angrily exposes Xi Jinping https://news.creaders.net/world/2024/06/02/2738142.html

The United States of America will be represented at the global "peace summit" by Vice President Kamala Harris, the White House announced officially on Monday, June 3. Harris, who will be joined by the US president's national security adviser Jake Sullivan, "will emphasize the commitment of the Joe Biden administration to support Ukraine's efforts to ensure a just and lasting peace," it said. https://www.dw.com/uk/zamist-bajdena-na-samit-miru-poide-kamala-harris-bilij-dim/a-69258063?maca=ukr-rss-ukrnet-ukr-all-3816-xml

[N0TZU]

It looks like the threat from asymmetric warfare, automation/AI, and finally the object lessons from Ukraine are being acted upon in the US military-industrial-congressional complex. Better late than never. Unfortunately this doesn’t help Ukraine right now, but perhaps will in the near future.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/06/04/united-states-drones-pentagon-military-weapons-evolution/

[US7IGN]

In recent days, there is no electricity in Kyiv for an average of 9 hours a day and the biggest problems are in business, and the population suffers because the refrigerators do not have time to cool food. It is a different story with high-rise buildings in which elevators do not work. Most Internet and mobile operators ensure the operation of their equipment during outages.

After turning on the electricity, everything turns on at the same time and the noise level even at 21 and 28 MHz is over S6, which makes it impossible to use the radio. So now I'm on the air only during blackouts.

Meanwhile, the law on the use of the English language in Ukraine was adopted. The law establishes the status of English as one of the languages ​​of international communication in Ukraine. Among other things, the law defines the categories of positions for which candidates are required to speak English, regulates the peculiarities of the use of the English language in the work of authorities, local self-government bodies, in the fields of education, culture, transport, health care, etc. https://focus.ua/uk/ukraine/650320-rada-priynyala-zakon-pro-angliysku-movu-hto-ne-zmozhe-vlashtuvatisya-na-robotu-bez-jiji-znannya

It reminds me of a similar situation when many years ago civil servants were required to confirm their knowledge of Ukrainian. The necessary certificates were simply purchased by all those who wished.

Another mysterious death during mobilization. On June 4, a local resident, 32-year-old Serhiy Kovalchuk, was buried in Baranivka. On May 29, a man with multiple injuries in a coma was taken to the Zvyagel hospital, where he died in a few days. The family claims that they have information that Serhiy was beaten in a local mobilization center. The Zhytomyr Regional Mobilization Center denies this information and says that the man died as a result of an epileptic attack. The police are investigating.
https://suspilne.media/amp/zhytomyr/761217-na-zitomirsini-pohovali-32-ricnogo-colovika-rodina-zaavlae-so-jogo-pobili-v-tck/

A murky story. If he was epileptic, why was he taken to the mobilization center? If he died of an epileptic attack, why did he have so many fractures and bruises?

Yesterday, my friend told me that another mutual friend of ours lost a leg at the front. He worked in the same bank as her and went to the front as a volunteer. I once considered him as a candidate for my team and I don't know if he found a job then. Maybe that's why he joined the army. In any case, it is good that he at least remained alive.

[US7IGN]

On the eve of the peace summit in Switzerland and observing what is happening now, I remember what goals pootin announced in 2022, starting another invasion of Ukraine - "denazification, demilitarisation and its neutral status". https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67711802

This can be understood in a broad sense as a change of power, the destruction of the army and on-joining NATO. Now it looks like they will finally get it. The fact that Ukraine will not become a member of NATO has actually been confirmed by Biden https://time.com/6984968/joe-biden-transcript-2024-interview/ , the destruction of the army through the use of weapons and soldiers, which will not be replenished, is in the process. Given the destruction of energy and the economy, a change of power is also not far off. Plus, they have already received additional territory.

It is not clear to me how Ukraine is going to achieve its terms - https://www.president.gov.ua/storage/j-files-storage/01/19/53/32af8d644e6cae41791548fc82ae2d8e_1691483767.pdf

Rockstar entrances are designed to demand attention, and that is precisely what Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy’s did when he arrived at the Shangri-La hotel to attend the premier Asian defense summit in Singapore. In his trademark green T-shirt and military trousers, flanked by bodyguards, it was as if the Taylor Swift of defense and security had descended onto the foreign policy stage.
He’d come to sell the idea that Asia needs to join Ukraine in its life-or-death fight for democracy against autocracy. But his pitch fell flat. Perhaps it was always destined to fail: Zelenskiy and his Western partners have long ignored that Asia could provide support to Ukraine in the face of russia’s war. It is now too little, too late.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-06-05/zelenskiy-s-bid-for-asian-support-in-russia-war-falls-flat?srnd=politics-vp

[US7IGN]

I watched the discussion of the top managers of the largest Ukrainian investment funds about investments during the war, major deals and the success of portfolio companies, plans for 2024 and what needs to be done to improve the investment climate in Ukraine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA9FszGCn0M

From their stories, I understood that most of their investments are not related to material assets in Ukraine, and investing in general is severely limited not only by the war, but also by legislation that does not protect the minority investor and which lacks many necessary stock market tools. Foreign funds not only do not plan any investments, but do not even consider the need to have local representatives. What I liked most was the answer to the question of how best to invest 10-20 thousand dollars - it’s best to invest it in yourself, so that it becomes a multiplier in the future. Therefore, I continue to invest all my time and resources in the education of myself and my children.

I also found Ray Dalio's book "Principles: Life & Work" extremely interesting and useful. I knew a lot of things before, but it’s always useful to look at yourself critically and remind yourself of what you really want and how you’re going to achieve it.

[KD8ZM-Brady]

Every day I think about two things - how can I earn money provided I cannot work for hire and considering restrictions on movement, and about reunification with my family, provided that the children cannot leave Poland, the wife cannot leave the children, and I can only leave Ukraine illegally with big risks. The worst thing is that I still do not lose hope for the end of the war and the subsequent restoration of Ukraine, in which I would like to stay to live and work.

And now all this can be scaled throughout the entire country and those who live in it. It is incredibly difficult for Ukrainians to fight both the russians and the authorities at the same time, and their strength is rapidly running out. I see Western support in the fight against the russians, but obviously no one will help the Ukrainians with the rest. But if you don't remove the cancer (the government), it will kill the organ (the state) and then the whole organism (the country). How can healthy cells survive in this situation?

On Monday, June 3, the Shevchenkivsky District Court of Kyiv allowed the transfer of the Gulliver shopping and entertainment complex to the management of the state agency for the management of seized assets, satisfying the corresponding request of the Prosecutor General's Office. Gulliver's representatives claim that this decision grossly violates the procedural and material norms of the law and actually means business seizure with the assistance of law enforcement and law enforcement agencies. https://www.rbc.ua/rus/news/sud-peredav-trts-gulliver-upravlinnya-arma-1717433315.html

Ukraine cannot wait for the end of the war to build its economy, so the US is investing in the development of the Ukrainian economy right now. This was stated by White House National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan during the Global Impact forum of officials and experts on June 3 in Washington.

He said that the US is "actively working to find and acquire additional air defense systems" to help protect Ukrainian skies from Russian attacks. "But on the other hand, you can't fight a war, a war of aggression that your neighbor has started and is waging on your territory, if you don't have the economy to generate the resources to keep your soldiers on the front lines," Sullivan explained. He added that "the idea that we can somehow support the military but not the economy defies everything we know about running an effective military campaign." https://www.holosameryky.com/a/sullivan-forum/7640612.html

Unfortunately, I do not see how this can be done without changing the state policy, and also by dismissing the last intelligent people who fight against corruption from public positions. Apparently, they are hiding from us the intentions of a new counteroffensive, given the number of mobilized troops who should reach the Ural Mountains at least. Then, after the capitulation of russia, all these temporary difficulties will really not matter, and Moscow's reparations will compensate for all the damage. It is obvious that such a stupid person like me is simply not able to appreciate all the wisdom and far-sightedness of our authorities. And all the things I don't understand are aimed at misleading the enemy, who should think that Ukraine is very weak and helpless.

Secrecy is already such that on the official website of the Embassy of Ukraine to the UK, a month after Zaluzhnyi's appointment as ambassador, the last statement was made by the previous ambassador. https://uk.mfa.gov.ua/en/timeline?&type=posts

By the way, everything is fine with diplomacy in Ukraine.

The leader of the Chinese Communist Party does not keep his word! Zelensky's speech angrily exposes Xi Jinping https://news.creaders.net/world/2024/06/02/2738142.html

The United States of America will be represented at the global "peace summit" by Vice President Kamala Harris, the White House announced officially on Monday, June 3. Harris, who will be joined by the US president's national security adviser Jake Sullivan, "will emphasize the commitment of the Joe Biden administration to support Ukraine's efforts to ensure a just and lasting peace," it said. https://www.dw.com/uk/zamist-bajdena-na-samit-miru-poide-kamala-harris-bilij-dim/a-69258063?maca=ukr-rss-ukrnet-ukr-all-3816-xml

It’s astounding how poorly-thought-out these policies are, by Z and his staff, with apparently no consideration given to their unintended consequences. But, he was an entertainer, so why would we be surprised? Especially since his rhetoric probably encouraged the invasion to begin with.

It is easier to understand why a country with no democratic history would make foolish choices regarding leadership, sadder still and more puzzling is why the US does so. Here we have dismal choices, two deeply unpopular and at best only semi-competent candidates, and a potential replacement (VP) who is has all the gravitas of a giggling schoolgirl. I am disgusted with US politics in a bipartisan way.

[US7IGN]

I see an even bigger problem than everything that is happening is that few people ask why all this is happening. And if no one asks questions, this means tacit consent.

Lately I've been making joint video calls with Colin and Dave, who are helping me, my friend Alexander and my son Seva learn English. My friend Alexander is still very weak, but his interest does not wane. Seva is able to carry on a conversation and despite the age difference, we discuss a wide variety of issues with interest. Also, after lessons, I separately explain to Alexander everything we talked about. The most surprising thing is how little people know about other societies and how different their attitudes are to certain issues. Therefore, I believe that learning a foreign language not only allows you to read or speak another language, but also to learn another culture and look at yourself and your country from a different perspective. I think that many problems in this world are precisely due to people’s complete misunderstanding of each other. Add to this the manipulation and distortion by propaganda that you are likely to encounter in mainstream media in your native language.

Today there is electricity all day, which is already perceived as something unusual. Yesterday there was a big missile attack, which caused a big fire at an enterprise not far from Kyiv. https://expres.online/podrobitsi/e-vluchannya-shakhediv-na-kiivshchini-gorit-promislove-pidpriemstvo-zaluchili-pozhezhniy-potyag

Representatives of the Ministry of Defense and mobilization centers ignored the meeting of the temporary investigative commission established in the Verkhovna Rada, which examines possible cases of violations in their activities, and in particular, during mobilization. https://www.radiosvoboda.org/a/news-predstavnyky-minoborony-zasidannia-tsk/32983025.html

After the President's veto, the Verkhovna Rada removed the norm that proposed to release people for not informing about the presence of relatives who remained in the temporarily occupied territory. https://sud.ua/uk/news/publication/302676-verkhovnaya-rada-posle-veto-prezidenta-ubrala-normu-kotoroy-predlagali-uvolnyat-lyudey-za-nepredyavlenie-rodstvennikov-ostavshikhsya-na-vremenno-okkupirovannoy-territorii

The successes of Ukrainian diplomacy are again “pleasant”:

President Volodymyr Zelensky once again emphasized the impossibility of territorial concessions of the russian federation to end the war during his speech before the National Assembly of France.https://sud.ua/uk/news/ukraine/302704-my-ne-imeem-prava-proigrat-zelenskiy-otverg-vozmozhnost-territorialnykh-ustupok-rf-dlya-zaversheniya-voyny

UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres will not be present at the peace summit on Ukraine, which will be held on June 15-16. https://www.rbc.ua/rus/news/gensek-oon-poyide-samit-miru-ukrayini-1717782893.html

Argentina's President Javier Millay will most likely not attend the Global Peace Summit in Switzerland on June 15-16, as he wants to be in his country during national holidays. https://www.lanacion.com.ar/politica/el-presidente-acorta-su-gira-europea-y-no-participara-de-la-reunion-del-g7-de-italia-ni-de-la-cumbre-nid06062024/

The newly appointed Ambassador of Ukraine to Great Britain, Valery Zaluzhnyi, is already completing preparations for the start of diplomatic work in the United Kingdom, Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said in an interview with Ukrinform. https://www.ukrinform.ua/rubric-polytics/3872569-zaluznij-uze-zaversue-pidgotovku-do-roboti-u-britanii-kuleba.html

NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg is scrapping plans to set up a five-year fund of military aid for Ukraine after facing pushback from alliance members, and is instead asking countries to keep up their current contributions, people familiar with the matter said. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-06-07/nato-scales-back-road-map-for-ukraine-aid-plan-after-pushback

[US7IGN]

Outages shroud Ukraine as russian strikes on power plants take their toll. After an attack over the weekend, the state electricity company, Ukrenergo, said electricity rationing would be needed throughout the country. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/06/06/ukraine-kyiv-power-blackouts-war/

Explosions and fires happen when people use self-made batteries and inverters. https://mykyivregion.com.ua/news/u-sofiyivskii-borshhagivci-u-bagatopoverxivci-vibuxnuv-akumulyator-foto

My neighbors maybe also have got poor quality inverters and chargers as the noise level has doubled in a week.

On Saturday, June 8, during the preparations for KyivPride, the mobilization center workers arrived at the event venue and started checking documents and tried to pick up men who did not have the necessary documents with them. https://www.stopcor.org/ukr/section-suspilstvo/news-ttsk-tisne-na-prajd-ruh-v-ukraini-kyivppride-pro-perevirku-dokumentiv-08-06-2024.html

The Kremlin leader said he did not rule out changes to Russia’s nuclear doctrine: the document which sets out the conditions under which russia would use nuclear weapons. “This doctrine is a living tool and we are carefully watching what is happening in the world around us and do not exclude making changes to this doctrine. This is also related to the testing of nuclear weapons.” And he delivered a warning to those European countries who’ve been supporting Ukraine: russia’s has “many more [tactical nuclear weapons] than there are on the European continent, even if the United States brings theirs over.” “Europe does not have a developed [early warning system],” he added. “In this sense they are more or less defenceless.”
Earlier this week, at a meeting with international news agency chiefs in St Petersburg, pootin suggested that russia might supply advanced conventional long-range weapons to others to strike Western targets. This was his response to NATO allies allowing Ukraine to strike russian territory with Western-supplied weapons. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn00e422yr2o

Bloomberg is full of optimism and believes that Putin is losing opportunities for a breakthrough. For months, russia’s army has made only limited gains on the battlefield against Ukrainian troops starved of weapons and ammunition. That’s a growing challenge for pootin as his military’s advantage starts to erode. With Kyiv now taking delivery of billions of dollars in fresh arms from its US and European allies, the window for a russian breakthrough is narrowing even as it continues to fire missiles and drones at Ukrainian cities including energy infrastructure. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-06-07/nato-scales-back-road-map-for-ukraine-aid-plan-after-pushback?srnd=homepage-europe

[US7IGN]

As Zelensky’s first elected term drew to a close, senior government, military, law enforcement and diplomatic sources, many of whom requested anonymity, expressed alarm at his growing dependence on Andriy ­Yermak, his chief of staff, who is ­accused of amassing personal power and usurping democratic processes.

Since the introduction of martial law in 2022, which enables Zelensky to remain in office until the war’s end, ­Yermak’s authority has surpassed that of all of Ukraine’s elected officials bar the president. Some sources went so far as to describe him as the “de facto head of state” or “Ukraine’s vice-president” in a series of interviews.

Diplomatic sources complained that he exercised complete control over ­access to the president, with G7 ambassadors who hoped for an audience presented with Yermak instead.

Military officials, meanwhile, have accused Yermak, 52, of keeping General Valery Zaluzhny away from the president, and eventually orchestrating his dismissal as head of the armed forces in February. Yermak, they claim, considered Zaluzhny a rival to his authority.

Government insiders also blamed Yermak for the sacking of the deputy prime minister, Oleksandr Kubrakov, last month after he reported efforts by MPs in Zelensky’s party to bribe him.

Both the general and the deputy prime minister, who was in charge of Ukraine’s infrastructure, were widely respected for their integrity, competence and independence.

Concern is mounting that Zelensky is increasingly reliant on a handful of sycophantic domestic voices, a fear made more acute as the number of officials with direct access to the president declines, while Yermak’s team grows.

https://www.thetimes.com/world/russia-ukraine-war/article/court-zelensky-ukraine-rocked-by-aides-thirst-for-power-57z9q8fwf

[KD8ZM-Brady]

As Zelensky’s first elected term drew to a close, senior government, military, law enforcement and diplomatic sources, many of whom requested anonymity, expressed alarm at his growing dependence on Andriy ­Yermak, his chief of staff, who is ­accused of amassing personal power and usurping democratic processes.

Since the introduction of martial law in 2022, which enables Zelensky to remain in office until the war’s end, ­Yermak’s authority has surpassed that of all of Ukraine’s elected officials bar the president. Some sources went so far as to describe him as the “de facto head of state” or “Ukraine’s vice-president” in a series of interviews.

Diplomatic sources complained that he exercised complete control over ­access to the president, with G7 ambassadors who hoped for an audience presented with Yermak instead.

Military officials, meanwhile, have accused Yermak, 52, of keeping General Valery Zaluzhny away from the president, and eventually orchestrating his dismissal as head of the armed forces in February. Yermak, they claim, considered Zaluzhny a rival to his authority.

Government insiders also blamed Yermak for the sacking of the deputy prime minister, Oleksandr Kubrakov, last month after he reported efforts by MPs in Zelensky’s party to bribe him.

Both the general and the deputy prime minister, who was in charge of Ukraine’s infrastructure, were widely respected for their integrity, competence and independence.

Concern is mounting that Zelensky is increasingly reliant on a handful of sycophantic domestic voices, a fear made more acute as the number of officials with direct access to the president declines, while Yermak’s team grows.

https://www.thetimes.com/world/russia-ukraine-war/article/court-zelensky-ukraine-rocked-by-aides-thirst-for-power-57z9q8fwf

It is discouraging. And in the US, anyone who brings up the idea that corruption and anti-democratic tendencies of Z and company exist and should be discouraged, is immediately accused of being in collusion with Russia or of being the victim of disinformation. It's difficult to have a rational discussion about Ukraine, these days.

[US7IGN]

It is discouraging. And in the US, anyone who brings up the idea that corruption and anti-democratic tendencies of Z and company exist and should be discouraged, is immediately accused of being in collusion with Russia or of being the victim of disinformation. It's difficult to have a rational discussion about Ukraine, these days.

I am sure that now you, without being a Ukrainian, are one of the most knowledgeable people about what is happening in Ukraine!
I think that the ability to read everything that is written on Ukrainian forums would upset you even more...

[KD8ZM-Brady]

It is discouraging. And in the US, anyone who brings up the idea that corruption and anti-democratic tendencies of Z and company exist and should be discouraged, is immediately accused of being in collusion with Russia or of being the victim of disinformation. It's difficult to have a rational discussion about Ukraine, these days.

I am sure that now you, without being a Ukrainian, are one of the most knowledgeable people about what is happening in Ukraine!
I think that the ability to read everything that is written on Ukrainian forums would upset you even more...

I suspect you are correct about what’s on Ukrainian forums! 

[N0TZU]

It is discouraging. And in the US, anyone who brings up the idea that corruption and anti-democratic tendencies of Z and company exist and should be discouraged, is immediately accused of being in collusion with Russia or of being the victim of disinformation. It's difficult to have a rational discussion about Ukraine, these days.

I am sure that now you, without being a Ukrainian, are one of the most knowledgeable people about what is happening in Ukraine!
I think that the ability to read everything that is written on Ukrainian forums would upset you even more...

Please point us to a couple of representative Ukrainian forums. I’d like to read some of the posts.