Автор Тема: Ukraine updates in English  (Прочитано 211483 раз)

US7IGN

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Сообщений: 2692
    • Просмотр профиля
    • US7IGN
Re: Ukraine updates in English
« Ответ #600 : Февраля 15, 2025, 12:23:12 am »
The last few days have been very eventful, and it is almost impossible to keep track of who said what. Therefore, all that remains is to record certain events or actions.

Volodymyr Zelensky signed a decree on the introduction of personal sanctions against Petro Poroshenko. The decision to this effect was made the day before by the National Security and Defense Council, which is headed by the President of Ukraine.

The measures against the opposition leader include the blocking of assets, a ban on economic activity, and the deprivation of ranks and awards. In fact, such sanctions will significantly limit the political and any other activities of Petro Poroshenko.

The sanctions package also includes businessmen Ihor Kolomoisky, Hennadiy Bogolyubov, Kostyantyn Zhevago, and former deputy of the Verkhovna Rada Viktor Medvedchuk. https://www.bbc.com/ukrainian/articles/cd0j9gd9lkyo

Sanctions as an instrument of force in international relations are used in Ukraine for political persecution and extrajudicial confiscation of property of those accused of treason or cooperation with russia. No evidence is required for this, it is enough to adopt a decision of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine, whose members are appointed by the President, and a Decree of the President himself.

Commenting on the sanctions, Zelensky said he would lift them if Poroshenko returned the money he allegedly stole. In reality, this looks like ordinary extortion.

A surprising coincidence can be considered the introduction of sanctions against those who own licenses for the extraction of minerals, which Trump claims.

russian commentators are overjoyed by Washington’s shift of policy on Ukraine - they literally cannot believe their luck.

"That’s the best thing about politics: sometimes it exceeds your wildest expectations," MP Oleg Morozov says on state-run rossiya TV. Referring to the telephone conversation between Donald Trump and Vladimir pooteen, he said: "I can’t recall another day in recent history that has changed our moods so much." https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c4g97971rwnt?post=asset%3A73c61292-3f1b-4af5-9077-0c03e93b401a#post

N0TZU

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Сообщений: 294
    • Просмотр профиля
Re: Ukraine updates in English
« Ответ #601 : Февраля 15, 2025, 01:00:26 am »
From two days ago, here is Trump’s response to a question from the press on whether Ukraine is an equal member in the peace process. (20 seconds)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HLpklgSyrNk

For some odd reason I am reminded of the 1938 Munich Agreement effectively ceding Czechoslovakia to Nazi Germany.
« Последнее редактирование: Февраля 15, 2025, 05:12:05 am от N0TZU »

UT7UX

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Сообщений: 22
    • Просмотр профиля
Re: Ukraine updates in English
« Ответ #602 : Февраля 15, 2025, 05:09:44 pm »
1 million hryvnias ($24,000)
Long story short: this is itself quadruple as much as average income.

According to statistics average monthly income per capita - yes, we're used with calculating per month but not per hour, reached UAH20'964 or approx $499 in second quarter 2024. Roughly $6000 per year. Obvious shortage of job seekers due mobilization itself, due huge number of escapees, and huge amount of those to hide from being force mobilized pushes wages enormously, so that given figure is pretty much optimistic and would likely decrease after the war.

In addition, the program includes a number of social benefits:

Compensation for housing rent during service;
The opportunity to obtain a mortgage at 0% after completing the contract within the framework of a special program;
Free education at higher education institutions at state expense after completing service;
Free medical care, including dental services and dentures;
The right to travel abroad after completing contract service;
Exemption from mobilization for 12 months after completing the contract.
Huge benefits that many times multiply the $24'000.

IMO the offer appears definitely generous for a young man with good health but with no ability to engage cronyism or corruption levers to build one's career.
« Последнее редактирование: Февраля 15, 2025, 05:11:50 pm от UT7UX »

US7IGN

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Сообщений: 2692
    • Просмотр профиля
    • US7IGN
Re: Ukraine updates in English
« Ответ #603 : Февраля 15, 2025, 10:49:14 pm »
From two days ago, here is Trump’s response to a question from the press on whether Ukraine is an equal member in the peace process. (20 seconds)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HLpklgSyrNk

For some odd reason I am reminded of the 1938 Munich Agreement effectively ceding Czechoslovakia to Nazi Germany.

A wonderful winter day and snow outside, but complete madness in politics and international relations.

Trump said on Thursday, February, 13 that he expected russian officials to also be at the conference in Munich and suggested they could meet with US and Ukrainian officials - but a senior Ukrainian official said talks with russia were not expected.

"russia is going to be there with our people," the US president said in comments made to the reporters."Ukraine is also invited, by the way, not sure exactly who's going to be there from any country - but high-level people from russia, from Ukraine and from the United States." https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy5k6gk50qvo

US Vice-President JD Vance has launched a scalding attack on European democracies, saying the greatest threat facing the continent was not from russia and China, but "from within".
It had been expected that Vance would use his speech at the Munich Security Conference to address possible talks to end the war in Ukraine. Instead, he spent the majority accusing European governments - including the UK's - of retreating from their values, and ignoring voter concerns on migration and free speech. The address was met by silence in the hall, and later denounced by several politicians at the conference. German Defence Minister Boris Pistorius said it was "not acceptable". Vance repeated the Trump administration's line that Europe must "step up in a big way to provide for its own defence". https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ceve3wl21x1o

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky spoke at a press conference as part of the Munich Security Conference and during his speech at the conference about relations with the new US administration and options for a peaceful resolution of the war. In his speech, Zelensky stressed the need for Europe to participate in peace negotiations and said that a peace treaty cannot be signed in Munich.

"We all remember what was signed here," Zelensky said, referring to the 1938 agreement that allowed Germany to annex the Sudetenland in Czechoslovakia. "I don't see that the US has a ready-made plan to end the war," he said. https://www.bbc.com/ukrainian/articles/c0jn0yw3xlyo

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said that he would not give up on Ukraine's potential membership in NATO. He also believes that the European Union should create its own army, and not rely on US assistance. Regarding the agreement on the extraction of Ukrainian rare earth metals, which the US insists on, Zelensky said that "talks are still ongoing."

Zelensky also said that it was "inappropriate" to hold elections in Ukraine in the near future. Earlier, US President's special representative Keith Kellogg said that, according to the White House, parliamentary and presidential elections should be held in Ukraine by the end of this year.
"I am ready to talk about elections. Ukrainians do not want this. They do not want this at all, because they are afraid, because otherwise we will lose martial law, the soldiers will return home and pooteen will seize all our territory. This will happen. Because now we are mobilized, now we are one organism, one country," Zelensky said.

According to the president, the elections will disrupt the unity of Ukrainians. "We need unity within the country. This is not about me, this is about the future of our country, this is about today. The question is how to survive, how to save Ukraine, our independence, our people, our home. If someone doesn't like it, they can choose another citizenship if they want."
https://www.bbc.com/ukrainian/articles/c74m2nl9jn4o

Ukrainians reacted to the latest statement with numerous memes and jokes, reminding that choosing another citizenship is impossible because the president has not satisfied a single application for renunciation of Ukrainian citizenship in the past few years. In addition, it is impossible to leave Ukraine legally, and buying an illegal opportunity to leave Ukraine already costs about 20,000 US dollars.

Vladimir pooteen is assembling a heavyweight team with decades of experience in high-stakes negotiations to face off against US President Donald Trump’s representatives for a deal to end russia’s war in Ukraine.

They include Yuri Ushakov, his chief Kremlin foreign-policy adviser who has more than half a century of involvement in diplomacy, and his top spymaster, Sergei Naryshkin, who served with pooteen in the Soviet KGB, according to people familiar with situation, who asked not to be identified discussing internal information.

That pooteen is opting to rely mostly on highly skilled and experienced negotiators to represent russia in any talks is hardly a surprise. The personnel choices underscore just how determined the russian leader is to secure a favorable outcome in any negotiations and potentially how little his demands in relation to Ukraine have changed in the three years since he ordered the full-scale invasion.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-02-14/putin-assembles-team-of-heavyweights-to-negotiate-ukraine-deal

Ukrainian authorities said that on the night of February 14, russia attacked the shelter of the destroyed power unit of the Chernobyl nuclear power plant with a drone. "The shelter at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant was damaged by this drone. The fire was extinguished. At the moment, the radiation background has not increased, and this is constantly monitored. According to initial estimates, the damage to the shelter is significant," the president wrote on social media. https://www.bbc.com/ukrainian/articles/c1kmdrn2kylo

Judging by the photos and videos from surveillance cameras, the drone was small and only damaged the outer covering of the hangar that was built over the destroyed reactor, but it was a great news item. Considering that it happened right during the conference in Munich, I don’t even know who did it and for what purpose.

US7IGN

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Сообщений: 2692
    • Просмотр профиля
    • US7IGN
Re: Ukraine updates in English
« Ответ #604 : Февраля 16, 2025, 01:27:00 pm »
Trump administration's mixed messaging on foreign policy leaves world guessing, so European leaders plan emergency summit as US and russia prepare for Ukraine peace talks.

The US should not exclude Ukrainian and European governments from its peace talks with russia, the German ambassador to the UK says. https://www.bbc.com/news/live/crr0gngkjrvt

russian TV has begun to prepare russians for peace talks with Ukraine. At the same time, they emphasize bilateral negotiations between the US and russia, which must first agree and make a joint decision. They also celebrate the restoration of relations with the US and the return of russia to the international arena as a full-fledged player recognized by all. A clear victory for pooteen.
https://www.bbc.com/ukrainian/articles/ce857x3dl35o

US7IGN

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Сообщений: 2692
    • Просмотр профиля
    • US7IGN
Re: Ukraine updates in English
« Ответ #605 : Февраля 16, 2025, 02:14:21 pm »
1 million hryvnias ($24,000)
Long story short: this is itself quadruple as much as average income.

According to statistics average monthly income per capita - yes, we're used with calculating per month but not per hour, reached UAH20'964 or approx $499 in second quarter 2024. Roughly $6000 per year. Obvious shortage of job seekers due mobilization itself, due huge number of escapees, and huge amount of those to hide from being force mobilized pushes wages enormously, so that given figure is pretty much optimistic and would likely decrease after the war.

In addition, the program includes a number of social benefits:

Compensation for housing rent during service;
The opportunity to obtain a mortgage at 0% after completing the contract within the framework of a special program;
Free education at higher education institutions at state expense after completing service;
Free medical care, including dental services and dentures;
The right to travel abroad after completing contract service;
Exemption from mobilization for 12 months after completing the contract.
Huge benefits that many times multiply the $24'000.

IMO the offer appears definitely generous for a young man with good health but with no ability to engage cronyism or corruption levers to build one's career.

Perhaps my perception of the world is distorted by the fact that I am a lawyer and have seen many beautiful proposals that were not followed by anything, and contracts that were not fulfilled.
I do not see answers to who will fulfill the obligations of the state even in a month. And in general, copying the russians in two years seems wrong to me. For russians, this war is a war of conquest and the opportunity to make money on it is a natural motivation. For a Ukrainian soldier, it all comes down to the need to simply continue to fight. But as the history of many wars shows, sooner or later the survivors simply throw down their weapons and disperse.
And a belated offer of money and other benefits looks like injustice for those who have been fighting for three years and must continue this without any bonuses.

KD8ZM-Brady

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Сообщений: 181
    • Просмотр профиля
Re: Ukraine updates in English
« Ответ #606 : Февраля 17, 2025, 06:53:28 pm »
Injustices... I think the longer a war goes on, the more injustices begin to occur and compound themselves, in any country that is involved. Which is one of many reasons why the war needs to be ended.
No one should expect that any peace deal will bring the perpetrator country to justice, as they never do. Even though Germany started WW2, they were not punished - and they outright lost, they didn't settle for peace. In fact, the generous Marshall Plan prevailed over the punishing Morgenthau Plan for Germany, as we know.  (Of course partly this was true because of the 1920s punishment of Germany that led to Hitler's rise).
I'm hoping for the best outcome that can be realistically achieved. Like everyone, I don't know what that realistic outcome can be, or will be.

US7IGN

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Сообщений: 2692
    • Просмотр профиля
    • US7IGN
Re: Ukraine updates in English
« Ответ #607 : Февраля 19, 2025, 12:22:57 am »
I think only one plan can solve the russian problem: Make Russia Small Again.

In the meantime, every evening there are new drone and missile attacks.

The United States and russia will appoint high-level teams to negotiate the end of the war in Ukraine and are working to reestablish diplomatic channels, US Secretary of State Marco Rubio said at the end of key talks that excluded Kyiv.
Even the fact that the talks were held at all was a major victory for russia. The meeting marked the first time top-level US and russian officials had met face to face since Moscow launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022, and they marked a complete reversal of policy from that of the Biden administration. https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/18/europe/us-russia-riyadh-talks-intl/index.html

Donald Trump says that talks between US and russian officials in Saudi Arabia on Tuesday were "very good" and that he is now "much more confident" of a Ukraine peace deal. The president was answering reporters' questions at his Mar-a-Lago residence in Florida, where a BBC journalist asked whether Ukrainians might feel "betrayed" after not being invited to the talks in Riyadh. Trump responded that Ukrainians have already had three years to negotiate for peace in the war that began with russia's full-scale invasion in 2022. https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c9vmzvz9ez0t

russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has said his country won't accept peacekeeping forces from Nato countries in Ukraine under any peace deal, following high-level talks with the US in Saudi Arabia. Afterwards, Lavrov said the US and russia would appoint ambassadors to each other's countries as soon as possible and create conditions to "restore co-operation in full".

russia and the United States are proposing a three-stage peace plan that includes a ceasefire, elections in Ukraine, and then the signing of a final agreement. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-russian-officials-propose-peace-plan-lay-groundwork-cooperation-riyadh?intcmp=tw_fnc

Perhaps the US and russia are already discussing the candidacy of the next Ukrainian president, who will suit both sides and sign everything that he is told.

European leaders held a hastily-arranged meeting in Paris on Monday to discuss their response to the apparent rapprochement between russia and the US under President Trump - but did not agree a unified position.
UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer said any Ukraine deal would require a "US backstop" to deter russia from attacking its neighbour again and said he would consider deploying UK troops to Ukraine.
But Germany's Chancellor Olaf Scholz, a key Nato ally, said for his part, discussing sending troops to Ukraine at present was "completely premature".
Poland's Prime Minister Donald Tusk also said he does not intend to send troops, and Italy's Giorgia Meloni - the only European leader to attend Trump's inauguration - expressed doubts.
She told the meeting in Paris that deploying European troops would be "the most complex and the least effective" way of securing peace in Ukraine.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd0n5e1pdz9o

While civilians watch the political show, the military continues to fight in increasingly worse conditions. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg151j5504o

Personally, I'm a little saddened that observing such fateful times doesn't evoke any special emotions...

KD8ZM-Brady

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Сообщений: 181
    • Просмотр профиля
Re: Ukraine updates in English
« Ответ #608 : Февраля 19, 2025, 01:02:24 am »
I think only one plan can solve the russian problem: Make Russia Small Again.

I definitely agree with this! One of the hardest things for me to accept about geopolitics is how the possession of nuclear weapons makes a country untouchable by the entire civilized world, no matter what that country may do. Russia is one example, and North Korea is an extreme example in terms of their paucity of nuclear weapons, yet they are immune to any attack by civilization. Iran, of course, wants to be in that club, and hopefully never will be. As we all know, Ukraine was in that club, but gave it up in exchange for a lie that they would be protected by the US and UK. As we say in this country, "Sure you can trust the government, just ask an (american) Indian!" Once Russia grabbed Crimea and Obama did nothing in response, the writing was on the wall for Putin. But Obama was noted for his "red lines' that once crossed, meant nothing.

On the subject of Lavrov declaring that no NATO soldiers could be allowed into Ukraine (and a further confirmation that the lie referenced above will continue)... given the statements by Hegseth, Scholz, Starmer, et. al., it sounds like everyone other than Ukraine agrees with Lavrov that there will be no Western troops guaranteeing anything in Ukraine. How convenient for Russia. So we are essentially back to the 'nukes make Russia unchallengeable' scenario, in my estimation.

KD8ZM-Brady

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Сообщений: 181
    • Просмотр профиля
Re: Ukraine updates in English
« Ответ #609 : Февраля 19, 2025, 03:34:10 am »
Update: I now see that Starmer and the Swedes have backed off on the "no peacekeeper troops in Ukraine" statement. I doubt they are serious, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

KD8ZM-Brady

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Сообщений: 181
    • Просмотр профиля
Re: Ukraine updates in English
« Ответ #610 : Февраля 19, 2025, 05:36:22 pm »
Given today's statements by Trump, unless he turns it around really fast, he seems to be on track to give Putin everything he wants in exchange for a short-lived peace. Very disappointing!

US7IGN

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Сообщений: 2692
    • Просмотр профиля
    • US7IGN
Re: Ukraine updates in English
« Ответ #611 : Февраля 19, 2025, 10:25:19 pm »
The US President's special envoy for Ukraine, Keith Kellogg, arrived in Kyiv on the morning of February 19. The previous night, Kyiv had been under attack by russian drones, although judging by the sounds they were either very large drones or missiles. There was no official word on the consequences.
"We will listen. We will provide what is necessary. We understand the need for security guarantees," he said. He explained that upon his return to the US, he would tell Trump about his impressions and observations, "to make sure we understand everything correctly." https://www.bbc.com/ukrainian/articles/c204rlnzvkeo

Speaking to reporters at his Mar-a-Lago residence, Trump was asked by the BBC what his message was to Ukrainians who might feel betrayed. "I hear that they're upset about not having a seat, well, they've had a seat for three years and a long time before that. This could have been settled very easily," he said. "You should have never started it. You could have made a deal," he later added.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd0n5e1pdz9o

Many people interpreted Trump's words as blaming Ukraine for starting the war. I don't know what Trump meant, but it looks like he's repeating the Kremlin's narrative. The absurdity of such accusations is simply incredible.

Donald Trump is demanding Volodymyr Zelensky hold elections that could oust him from office as the price of peace. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2025/02/18/zelensky-will-be-forced-hold-elections-under-us-russia-plan/

I would like to quote John Mac Ghlionn from The Hill on this issue:
A good leader prioritizes the survival of his nation. He knows when to fight, and more importantly, he knows when to negotiate. Zelensky, however, has made it clear that his power depends on war, and war alone.
Since russia’s invasion in 2022, Zelensky had banned several opposition parties, banned certain media outlets and postponed elections with the justification that wartime voting is “impossible.” Impossible for whom? For the soldiers in the trenches, or for the civilians now living under indefinite martial law?

Ukraine is in a desperate position. The country’s losses are catastrophic. Manpower is running thin, which is why Zelensky has resorted to hunting men down in the streets. There are countless reports of Ukrainian men being dragged from cafes and nightclubs and thrown into vans like criminals.

Martial law means there is no way out. You cannot leave the country. You cannot refuse. This is not the mark of a confident government. This is the behavior of a desperate regime trying to hold itself together by force.

And yet the war must continue. It is the only thing keeping Zelensky in power. If he were to call elections, he would likely lose. Support for him is falling. The longer this drags on, the more obvious it becomes that Ukraine cannot win — not in any meaningful sense. This is not 2022. The optimism of those early months, when the world believed Ukraine might push russia back, is gone. Even the U.S., Ukraine’s biggest backer, is slowly dialing down support, with Washington insiders admitting that a total Ukrainian victory is no longer the goal.

https://thehill.com/opinion/5146149-zelensky-war-ego/

"Zelensky better move fast or he is not going to have a country left," US President Donald Trump says in a post on Truth Social.
Labelling Zelensky "a dictator", Trump writes: "I love Ukraine, but Zelensky has done a terrible job, his country is shattered, and MILLIONS have unnecessarily died."
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c62e2158mkpt

The size of Ukraine will depend on the number of people who are ready to defend the country. It is not only about the Armed Forces, but also about the number of people ready to take up arms and stand up for the defense of the state, said the Ambassador of Ukraine to the United Kingdom, former Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Valeriy Zaluzhny. https://www.ukrinform.ua/rubric-polytics/3961817-rozmiri-ukraini-zalezatimut-vid-kilkosti-ludej-gotovih-ii-zahisati-zaluznij.html

But as practice shows, the less likely it is that someone will end up in a trench, the more furiously he calls for fighting...

KD8ZM-Brady

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Сообщений: 181
    • Просмотр профиля
Re: Ukraine updates in English
« Ответ #612 : Февраля 20, 2025, 05:10:59 pm »
Hello Wlad, and my other friends. To your quote from The Hill, I would respond: As shocking as yesterday's Trump statements were, the one thing I did concede to Trump is that his assessment of Z. and what Z. is doing, is very similar to what I have read here on this forum, about Z. While I understand that during a war of survival, certain rights may need to be suspended, one of those things is not elections. During the US's civil war, elections were held in which Lincoln was re-elected - this despite the fact that a third to a half of US states could not participate.
I can't say that Z wants to be a dictator, but he seems to be acting as one, as a practical matter.

That said, Trump should be much more careful how he expresses himself. To say that Russia was demanding security guarantees against NATO encroachment prior to the invasion, that were ignored by the West, is one thing. (I believe that is probably what he was referring to). To characterize ignoring those demands as "starting the war," is a totally different thing, and comes off as an outright mischaracterization, of Russian proportions.

Although most of us have known that Ukraine isn't likely to regain the eastern districts now occupied by Russia, it was stupid of Hegseth to concede this prior to negotiations, and stupid of Trump to not keep Hegseth on a short leash until he could be told what not to say.

On the positive side (in my opinion), freezing the Europeans out of the negotiations seems to have gotten them talking about raising their commitments of peacekeeping forces and defense spending, so they can appear relevant again, and buy their way to the negotiating table. They are far behind the curve in taking care of their own continent, as usual.

We sure live in interesting times.

bluesky

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Сообщений: 33
    • Просмотр профиля
Re: Ukraine updates in English
« Ответ #613 : Февраля 20, 2025, 10:10:50 pm »
Injustices... I think the longer a war goes on, the more injustices begin to occur and compound themselves, in any country that is involved. Which is one of many reasons why the war needs to be ended.
No one should expect that any peace deal will bring the perpetrator country to justice, as they never do. Even though Germany started WW2, they were not punished - and they outright lost, they didn't settle for peace. In fact, the generous Marshall Plan prevailed over the punishing Morgenthau Plan for Germany, as we know.  (Of course partly this was true because of the 1920s punishment of Germany that led to Hitler's rise).
I'm hoping for the best outcome that can be realistically achieved. Like everyone, I don't know what that realistic outcome can be, or will be.

bluesky

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Сообщений: 33
    • Просмотр профиля
Re: Ukraine updates in English
« Ответ #614 : Февраля 20, 2025, 10:14:41 pm »
Disclaimer:
You voted for Trumph